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Then in that location'd exist a 2 hour direct before launch giving a quick rundown of all of the blooming characters. Sakurai stops to catch breath, even though information technology'southward edited in advance.
"Please FOR THE Honey OF GOD, NEVER Enquire FOR Anything Once more" - Sakurai
Shadow, Geno, Isabelle, Skull Kid, and Dixie Kong
I recollect that yous misunderstood the question... or that Isabelle also brings along 29 brute neighbors as well...
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Sometimes a reference is just that, a reference. I really think this "they're hinting at Ten" mentality is gonna crash down hard. It seems there's no terminate to the Smash fanbase's constant bicycle of self-made disappointment because no one seems to learn from past mistakes.
Likewise?

No one makes a reference but to brand a reference a lot of the time. References are washed for a reason and to bring across a point.

As well no one seems to learn from past mistakes can be said most those who refuse to think that Sakurai isn't some clear cut thing we tin predict from his past ways.

Information technology might actually better be used for them considering how consistently unpredictable he is, even so about everyone in the fanbase seems to retrieve they know exactly how he thinks, moves, acts, and what he'd do 98 pct of the fourth dimension and don't business relationship for whatsoever variables than what they are employ to from him.

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Unfortunately yes. Ane of my favorite Zelda villains
Sorry for your loss, Zinith
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Has Ghirahim been shown as an assist?
Yes he has. I call up Vaati has a meliorate chance at being playable than Ghirahim personally
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Yes he has. I think Vaati has a better take chances at being playable than Ghirahim personally
I was just asking because I hadn't seen him. I would prefer Skull Kid if a Zelda rep was revealed.
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"PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NEVER Ask FOR Annihilation Once more" - Sakurai

I think that you misunderstood the question... or that Isabelle too brings forth 29 animal neighbors likewise...

Isabelle has a run a risk of beingness unique. It'd exist kind of an insult to the mascot of Animal Crossing to not brand her a unique fighter, or at least a semi-clone
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So I have a question... what if the games comes out and equally information technology turns out... there's actually 100 playable characters non including echos...
Too Who would they be?
Did yous just ask me to proper noun 33 new fighters, considering K. Rool is 67 out of 100.
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So I have a question... what if the games comes out and as it turns out... in that location'south really 100 playable characters not including echos...
Also Who would they be?
You lot're asking me to come up with 33 more characters that weren't deconfirmed, not counting echoes?
sigh alright.
Incineroar
Geno
Bandanna Dee
Isaac
Skull Kid
Isabelle (not as an echo)
Elma
Chorus Kids
Lloyd
Heihachi
Monster Hunter
Dixie Kong (not every bit an echo)
Steve
Shadow (not equally an echo)
Rabbid Peach (ew)
Rayman
Shantae
Gardevoir
Tails
Eggman
Excite Bike
Mallow
Slippy
Lycanroc
Primarina
Decidueye
Banjo Kazooie
Prince Sable
Terra
Buzzwole
King & Pyra
Springman
Sans
Don't ask me for anything e'er once more.
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I was merely request because I hadn't seen him. I would prefer Skull Child if a Zelda rep was revealed.
Yeah I agree, Skull Child has a much better run a risk. He and Impa take the best gamble
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Did you just enquire me to name 33 new fighters
I couldn't. I'd just become so far before I am forced to randomly name people I don't care most or want.
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Isabelle has a run a risk of being unique. It'd exist kind of an insult to the mascot of Animal Crossing to non make her a unique fighter, or at to the lowest degree a semi-clone
No I mean... similar there's 33 fighters that you lot'd have to add together in to the master roster and you listed 5, It's not that Isabelle is bad it'due south but that you merely listed 5 characters.
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What if team 5 is the first group of characters to go first? I think you know what I hateful.
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I was thinking, Castlevania and Metroid got multiple characters and with Echos being a thing, a lot of other series could very well get multiple new ones.

Hither's the ones I call up could plausibly get the treatment

Mario: Daisy, Geno, Metal Mario
Donkey Kong: Chiliad. Rool, Dixie
Zelda: Hilda, Impa, Skull Kid
Pokemon: Gen vii (Incenaroar?), Gardevoir, Gothitelle (Thanks peradventure lucky Anon)
Earthbound: Ninten, Gygias

Fire Keepsake: Chrom, Have your choice
Kid Icarus: Medusa, Viridi (Share Palutena's old community between ya)

Sonic: Metal Sonic, Shadow
Streer Fighter: Ken, Akuma, Sakura, Dan...

Which do you think is most likley?

Replace Metallic Sonic with Tails and that would exist a possibility

Though out of these, which are almost likely? K. Rool and Dixie for certain

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Yous're asking me to come up with 33 more characters that weren't deconfirmed, not counting echoes?
sigh alright.
Incineroar
Geno
Bandanna Dee
Isaac
Skull Child
Isabelle (not as an echo)
Elma
Chorus Kids
Lloyd
Heihachi
Monster Hunter
Doomguy
Steve
Dovakhin
Rabbid Peach (ew)
Rayman
Shantae
Gardevoir
Tails
Eggman
Excite Bike
Mallow
Slippy
Lycanroc
Samurai Goroh
Decidueye
Banjo Kazooie
Prince Sable
Terra
Buzzwole
King & Pyra
Springman
Sans
Don't ask me for anything ever over again.
I'grand sorry to say this but Samurai Goroh was disconfirmed for Blast...
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I'm pitiful to say this but Samurai Goroh was disconfirmed for Blast...
Replaced him with Primarina.
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Ya'll hating on Rabbid Peach and withal she's amend than half your favs could ever be.
Is in that location any Nintendo crossover weirder than this?
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I mean, I don't hateful to sound ungrateful. I think everything they've washed for this game is for the fans, but none of the characters revealed have been characters I really desire. I wanted Ashley, Isabelle, Viridi, Shantae, and Lyn, and so far information technology's not looking good for whatsoever of them, bated from Isabelle. I call back she will go in. But all the others I want are either AT or not likely to arrive equally playable.
I can definitely empathise how you experience.
In the pre-Smash4 days I wanted : Dixie/1000.Rool(the most), Villager/Tom Nook, Ghirahim, Toad, Micaiah (Fire Emblem), Travis Touchdown. Almost characters I wanted were ignored, not even appeared every bit AT. Simply got Villager, the exact first one.
It sucks.I don't intendance nearly Pac-man, Bayo, Ryu, Duck Hunt, hated Bowser Jr... it felt like one horrible roster to me.

In comparing, I liked Ridley inclusion. Inkling seems funny. Simon it'due south absurd. And at present K.Rool.
So maybe at that place will come a time where the ones you lot intendance finally happens.

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Is there any Nintendo crossover weirder than this?
Does it thing if information technology's weird?

Does it thing if y'all hated prior Rabbids games?

What matters is it'due south a well made funny ass game fabricated by a evolution squad who got the Rabbids and the Mario characters right.

Honestly at this bespeak if you oasis't at least tried it and you accept a Switch? What are you doing?

It'south but equally adept of a Mario game as Odyssey IMO.

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Alright lads it's about time for another forum game.
List bosses you want for Spirits mode (assuming that'south where you fight Dracula and Rathalos)
In my mind, bosses may exist exclusive to certain characters for their own series or they're just randomized for funsies. Let'due south get this started.
Male monarch Bob-Omb

This dude'south probably 1 of the most iconic Mario bosses period. He's a durable boi and has numerous of ane of the strongest items in the game at his disposal. I recall he'd exist very powerful. Maybe there's a gimmick where you lot take to learn how to grab items past airdodging to throw bombs back at him to brand him vulnerable, and I call back that'd be a very useful fight to teach players some of the more than advanced techniques that take been effectually since Melee.

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He'south already a dominate on Gaur Plains. I recollect he's such a big character in the game

before the spoilerfest begins that he could get an upgrade to something more advanced. The stage for Rathalos and Gaur Plains take similar textures as I've seen it, so it could be an like shooting fish in a barrel build for the stage itself. I'd rather have Sword Valley, but if it's easier and faster, and so that'll probably have priority.
I could listing more but I don't my head for making stupid long posts.
Bold the new blurred out style is something like Subspace what characters practice you guys want to see team up?
:ultpichu: + :ultyoshi:. Yoshi's proficient with children.
Night Samus + Male monarch K Rool. Western made antagonists.
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Likewise?

No 1 makes a reference just to make a reference a lot of the time. References are done for a reason and to bring beyond a point.

Too no one seems to acquire from past mistakes tin be said about those who refuse to think that Sakurai isn't some clear cut thing we can predict from his past ways.

Information technology might actually improve be used for them because how consistently unpredictable he is, all the same most everyone in the fanbase seems to remember they know exactly how he thinks, moves, acts, and what he'd practise 98 percent of the time and don't business relationship for any variables than what they are use to from him.

A reference still doesn't necessarily need to mean anything.

The only ones who are interim like Sakurai tin can be predicted are the ones trying to expect for clues on small things. There'south nothing reason to believe a chair is a hint towards a character and believing so is just setting oneself upward for disappointment.

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Ya'll hating on Rabbid Peach and nevertheless she's better than half your favs could always exist.
Honestly this is probably the best game the Rabbids volition ever get.
Is at that place any Nintendo crossover weirder than this?
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Ya'll hating on Rabbid Peach and nevertheless she's better than one-half your favs could always be.
Closest thing to Waru-Peach.
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I mean, I don't mean to sound ungrateful. I think everything they've done for this game is for the fans, but none of the characters revealed have been characters I really want. I wanted Ashley, Isabelle, Viridi, Shantae, and Lyn, so far it's not looking good for whatever of them, bated from Isabelle. I think she volition get in. Only all the others I desire are either AT or not likely to arrive every bit playable.
Trust me, I'g in the Viridi gunkhole as you lot are, and I hope she shines in, simply something tells me its not gonna happen. We'll see.
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A reference still doesn't necessarily need to mean anything.

The just ones who are acting similar Sakurai can exist predicted are the ones trying to wait for clues on modest things. In that location's zero reason to believe a chair is a hint towards a character and assertive so is just setting oneself upwardly for disappointment.

I don't think anyone is setting themselves upward for disappointment if they don't fully believe the possibility, simply I also think information technology's weirder to non open yourself upwardly to the possibility it means something more.

After all I don't call back anyone is 100 percent on the rooms or Rathalos screenshot or the DBZ reference significant anything, but I also don't meet why everyone has to write them off every bit absolutely 100 per centum meaning nothing either out of pessimist.

It makes speculation boring equally **** and clear cutting copy and paste. How the hell is that fun for you or anyone else?

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Alright lads it'southward most fourth dimension for another forum game.
Listing bosses you want for Spirits mode (assuming that's where y'all fight Dracula and Rathalos)
In my heed, bosses may be exclusive to certain characters for their own serial or they're but randomized for funsies. Let's become this started.
Male monarch Bob-Omb

This dude's probably i of the most iconic Mario bosses period. He's a durable boi and has numerous of one of the strongest items in the game at his disposal. I recollect he'd be very powerful. Maybe there's a gimmick where you have to learn how to grab items by airdodging to throw bombs back at him to make him vulnerable, and I think that'd be a very useful fight to teach players some of the more than avant-garde techniques that have been around since Melee.

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He's already a dominate on Gaur Plains. I think he's such a big graphic symbol in the game

earlier the spoilerfest begins that he could get an upgrade to something more advanced. The phase for Rathalos and Gaur Plains have similar textures as I've seen it, then information technology could be an easy build for the stage itself. I'd rather take Sword Valley, but if it's easier and faster, and so that'll probably take priority.
I could list more merely I don't my head for making stupid long posts.
Andross
I'd debate that Andross is a pretty damn iconic villain in gaming. I can see him equally a boss fight working pretty simply. He's have various attacks using his hands, such as slamming them on the basis and trying to dial the player. Between attack cycles, he'd begin to inhale asteroids, and the player would have to continue away. He'd then spit them out before attempting to attack the player again. The key to beating him would be to attack his hands during their attack end-lag, and to take out his eyes. He'd be defeated in one case his hands and head have all been destroyed.

Monarch Dodora
Another Star Pull a fast one on boss, Monarch Dodora was one of Star Fob Naught's more memorable boss fights. I can encounter this boss fight being a mix betwixt Rathalos and Rayquaza. Monarch Dodora would attack by hurling fireballs at the stage, trying to chomp down on players with its ii heads, sweeping the phase with a light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation from its tail, and past kick upwards a windstorm to throw the actor around. The key to defeating it would exist to set on it's center weak point. Information technology's heads and tail can be attacked, and although the tail can somewhen be destroyed, the heads volition only exist temporarily disabled in one case they've taken enough damage. It is defeated once its center weak signal has taken plenty impairment.
Buzzwole
Although some await for this thing to be a playable graphic symbol, I think information technology has great potential as a dominate. Buzzwole would take four attacks, just like in the Pokemon games. First would past Focus Dial, where Buzzwole stands in place and charges an incredibly strong punch. Y'all can assail it as the punch is beingness charged, and if you practise plenty damage, you'll break its concentration and the motion will neglect. The second is Leech Life, where Buzzwole grabs the role player and begins to leech their life, healing it in the process, earlier throwing them. The third is Hammer Arm, where Buzzwole leans forward and slams the ground with its unabridged arm in a hammer-similar swing. The quaternary and terminal motility is Lunge, where Buzzwole tucks dorsum before rapidly dashing to the other side of the field, stampeding over the player. The cardinal to defeating it would simply be to deal every bit much impairment equally possible during it's start-upward and end-lag on its moves, while fugitive being hit since all its attacks do very high damage and knockback.
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Does information technology matter if it's weird?

Does information technology matter if yous hated prior Rabbids games?

What matters is information technology's a well made funny *** game made by a development team who got the Rabbids and the Mario characters right.

Honestly at this bespeak if yous haven't at to the lowest degree tried it and you take a Switch? What are you doing?

It's only as good of a Mario game as Odyssey IMO.

Woah, I wasn't being likewise serious in that location. Rabbids always had a better risk than obscure characters that go no attention, and I know that. I was merely looking for some actual other crossovers for somebody to mention.
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A reference nonetheless doesn't necessarily need to hateful annihilation.

The simply ones who are acting like Sakurai can be predicted are the ones trying to look for clues on small things. There'southward zilch reason to believe a chair is a hint towards a character and assertive so is just setting oneself up for thwarting.

There are plenty of reasons to believe information technology, likewise. Not that information technology has to mean anything at all. We all know Sakurai hints at things in diverse ways. People are going to look, come across, post and discuss the references or hints that are, at the very to the lowest degree, possible.

That'south all it is and anybody knows that. Telling people they're nothing is just the opposite end of the same problem.
Some of those who encounter them are too optimistic and the people who condone them entirely are too pessimistic. Neither of them are correct until they're right.

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Woah, I wasn't beingness likewise serious at that place. Rabbids always had a better chance than obscure characters that get no attention, and I know that. I was just looking for some actual other crossovers for somebody to mention.
I wasn't attacking y'all. Only trying to get people out of their mindsets they always seem to exist in nearly things.

I'one thousand sure in that location'due south more weird Nintendo crossovers. They have many years of history after all.

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Honestly this is probably the best game the Rabbids will ever get.
When did that happen?
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I'grand just saying.

At that place'due south a reason why you guys get shocked so easily by Sakurai.

Y'all writte off possibilities based on the past, instead of thinking of the possibilities of the present.

It's why things like Ridley shocked you or even going back to concluding game? Bayonetta.

That possibilty of Bayonetta was ever there. She was an IP Nintendo had taken involvement in. Ane they wanted to button the future of. ****. Even one that Sakurai had complimented himself. She was a type of character Sakurai hadn't featured still.

And everyone wrote her off because of prior comments about guns or the fact she wasn't iconic or whatsoever.

Every possibility was shot down and then when she was the final graphic symbol revealed, the few of us who tried to tell the balance of y'all weren't shocked in the least, while the rest of yous were all ''HOW COULD THIS BE?!"

I hateful maybe it comes down to not wanting to open up your optics to the possibilities because your afraid of the outcome either in a positive or negative fashion, but it merely comes off as really close minded well-nigh speculation in my opinion.

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I don't recollect anyone is setting themselves upwardly for disappointment if they don't fully believe the possibility, but I also think it'south weirder to not open yourself up to the possibility it means something more.

Subsequently all I don't think anyone is 100 percent on the rooms or Rathalos screenshot or the DBZ reference meaning anything, but I as well don't run into why anybody has to write them off as absolutely 100 pct meaning nothing either out of pessimist.

It makes speculation boring as **** and articulate cut copy and paste. How the hell is that fun for yous or anyone else?

There are plenty of reasons to believe it, likewise. Non that information technology has to mean anything at all. We all know Sakurai hints at things in diverse ways. People are going to look, see, post and discuss the references or hints that are, at the very least, possible.

That's all information technology is and everyone knows that. Telling people they're nothing is just the opposite end of the aforementioned problem.
Some of those who see them are too optimistic and the people who disregard them entirely are likewise pessimistic. Neither of them are right until they're right.

They may endeavour to exist tell themselves that but they don't know how they'll react, I was hither during the Boom four release and there was a lot of overreactions to "missing" things that weren't even promised. There isn't any benefit from expecting more without any evidence and speculation has plenty to work with without the need to rely on straw-grasping theories.
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I demand to meet Dark Pit, Meta Knight, and Shadow all piece of work together.
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They may try to be tell themselves that but they don't know how they'll react, I was here during the Nail 4 release and in that location was a lot of overreactions to "missing" things that weren't fifty-fifty promised. There isn't whatsoever do good from expecting more than without any evidence and speculation has enough to piece of work with without the demand to rely on harbinger-grasping theories.
Well we can allow people to entertain chair and Rathalos speculation, or we can go back to fighting almost Shadow echo and whether Goku tin make it every single 24-hour interval again. I'd rather continue going with pointlessly overanalyzing every slice of new info equally if it's lawmaking.
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They may try to exist tell themselves that only they don't know how they'll react, I was here during the Blast four release and there was a lot of overreactions to "missing" things that weren't even promised. There isn't any benefit from expecting more without any prove and speculation has plenty to work with without the need to rely on straw-grasping theories.
Okay, but as someone who thought Ridley in Smash four was harbinger grasping?

And thinks that whatsoever hope of Waluigi or Ashley in Nail Ultimate is straw grasping?

I think there's a pretty big departure in the possibility of the references and theories existence presented hither than say...

''He has the shadow of a playable character" despite the fact he was very obviously a phase take a chance from the get go.

Or the fact both Waluigi and Ashley have very conspicuously been shown to be assistance trophies nonetheless and there'due south not some conspiracy fake out about to happen.

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